Pastor Creflo Dollar of World Changers Megachurch in Metro Atlanta Says He Was Not Correct About Tithing in Sermon ‘The Great Misunderstanding’

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I never thought I would see the day that World Changers Church International Pastor, Creflo Dollar, would have a different philosophy about tithing…See, World Changers is located in College Park, and College Park is where I spent most of my childhood. I remember when World Changers was not there. In fact, I remember when the church campus was simply a shopping center on Old Nat L, College Park residents’ beloved nickname for Old National Highway, a main thoroughfare in the city. So to have seen a simple shopping center become an internationally known megachurch was something to behold, and I imagine all of us CPK or Collipark (two more nicknames) residents were stunned by the spectacle. And I imagine we were all curious about the black man who built the empire. All I knew was that I went to high school with one of Pastor Dollar’s cousins, and her last name was Dollar too. So if you’re wondering if he changed his last name to Dollar, unless his cousins changed their last name too, that’s highly unlikely. But it was kind of funny to witness a man whose last name was Dollar build a megachurch that must have cost millions of dollars.

I imagine that out of curiosity that almost every College Park resident has visited World Changers at least once. I have. Years ago, I dated a member of the church, and I attended with him at least once. And then some years after that, I attended a Yolanda Adams concert there. But back to the lone service I attended, I remember there was a heavy emphasis on tithing, and it made me uncomfortable. I cannot lie about that. At my church where my father was the senior pastor for many years, while he preached on tithing and believes in it, it is not emphasized in every service. Tithing is encouraged; however, tithing is just one of many biblical principles that were preached about over the course of time. And while I have tithed since I was a teenager due to my father’s encouragement, I never felt pressure to do so. But during that one service, I got the feeling that compulsory tithing was a core tenet of World Changers.

That being said, as I was never a member, I wasn’t familiar with his other teachings. I would imagine that members of Pastor Dollar’s church have learned many principles from him that have nothing to do with money. Despite whatever else he taught, however, it seemed that nearly every story I’ve heard about him and World Changers over the years had to do with money. The jet story comes to mind. People have speculated that he has amassed wealth due to his teaching about compulsory tithing which I cannot confirm or deny. All of this to say, I wonder after all of these years, what was the impetus for his change of heart around tithing. In his recent sermon “The Great Misunderstanding,” Pastor Dollar begins his sermon saying, “I want to start off by saying to you that I’m still growing, and that the teachings that I have shared in times past on the subject of tithing were not correct. And today I stand in humility to correct some things that I’ve taught over the years and believed for years but could not understand fully because I was not yet confronted with the gospel of grace which has made the difference. I won’t apologize because if it was not for me going down that route,  I would have never ended up where I am right now. But I will say that I have no shame at all at saying, throw away every book, every tape and every video I ever did on the subject of tithing unless it lines up with this.” Whoa, right?!!! That’s a beyond bold statement to make all of these years in…Me being who I am, I would have been like before I throw away everything, can I get a refund? Even if I only got back a fraction of what I spent, something is better than nothing has been said…LOL…But I digress…

There were many interesting points throughout the sermon that was preached in two parts on two different Sundays starting on June 26. Firstly, he establishes that his former approach to tithing was based on the Old Testament (in which tithing was mandated) and not the New Testament (in which tithing or giving was encouraged but not mandated) and that it was based on fear and guilt.

  • at 15:33, Pastor Dollars references 2 Corinthians 9:7 “Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.” He goes on to say that Malachi 3:10 caused him to feel fear and pressure regarding tithing. He recounts in the early days of his marriage, he was 26 cents short on his tithe and could not give it. Shortly afterward, a brick was thrown through his car window, and he wondered if the incident occurred because he was short on his tithe.
  • at 23:54, he discusses the self-righteous Pharisee in Luke 18 who boasted about being a tither.
  • at 23:09, he encourages his congregation to read 2 Corinthians 9 to learn about Paul’s approach to giving…

And there were many other interesting points that he made… If you’re interested in seeing the totality of “The Great Misunderstanding,” the videos are below…

I wonder if there was a Q&A session at any point after these sermons because I have so many questions now…Three of them are below…

  1. The verses that he mentioned have been in the Bible the whole time he has been preaching, I wonder why he didn’t take them into account before now?
  2. Is there any concern that the ministries of the church will not be supported in the same way if tithing is no longer compulsory?
  3. Will there be some sort of refund in place? Before, when I referenced a refund, I was joking. However, even Uncle Sam gives refunds so why shouldn’t church members be given refunds when they have given based on incorrect teaching…I don’t know how that would be handled, but the idea is not incomprehensible…Even $25 a member would be a nice gesture going forward…

What say you?

Finally, I do applaud Pastor Dollar for being audacious in his admitting his mistake…

Any thoughts?

 

Former Pastor Mase To Reemerge at World Changers Church International’s Radical Revolution Conference

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Y’all betta be glad I’m not God. I woulda banished some of y’all below just because you looked like you were judging me. And that’s what I’m trying to remember this morning as I type this blog post. I’m not God and just because I interpret something as being a certain way, that may not be the truth. Only God knows the condition of the hearts of men and women. So here’s the deal. Ya man Mase, or Pastor Mase as he was known in 2014, left his church that he founded as he got caught up in the rapture of rap it seems. I was so befuddled by his departure that I wrote an open letter on UrbanFaith.com. See an excerpt below:

Dear Mason Betha aka Murder Ma$e aka S.A.N.E. Minister Mason Betha aka Pastor Betha of El Elyon International Church,

I’m trying so hard not to judge you right now, but what is you doin’ man? (I’m sayin’ this Atlanta style since that is where you have lived since 1999.) I just read on TMZ that you, the pastor of El Elyon International Church, up and dipped on your congregation and returned to the “rap game full time.” Where they do that at? I knew something was up when, while flipping through television channels last week, I saw you rappin’ on some video and cheesin’ it up with your infectious smile like you did before you left Bad Boy for the ministry back in the day. And I wasn’t the only one that was confused. In a recent interview with The Breakfast Club, rapper Ja Rule—who seems to be finding his own way to faith–was asked about your return to the rap industry. According to a Madame Noire post of that interview he said, “I’m very confused by what Mase is doing. I don’t know if that’s cool or not. I wouldn’t play with the Lord like that.” Say that! Too read the full letter, to urbanfaith.com.

And then as recently as November 2017, Fader reported Mase is still beefin’ with rapper Cam’ron.

Over the Thanksgiving weekend, Cam’ron and Mase stoked the flames of an old beef, trading diss tracks back and forth. On Friday, Mase shared “The Oracle” and promptly took to Genius to annotate it. Cam’ron responded on Saturday night with “Dinner Time,” in which he alleges that Mase retired from rap to run a Ponzi scheme and calling into question his roots in Harlem. See the full article at thefader.com.

Dude released a diss track in which he was cussin’ and what not. Now, I don’t believe that if a cuss word escapes your lips, you’re headed to hell, but I just don’t think that God is pleased by this particular demonstration. But hey, I could be wrong. And furthermore, it seems downright silly to be spending time on a diss track at 40 years old. The only diss I’m worried about this age is “diss”ease. I hope this “beef” was all for show because Christian or not, we too old for that…Go cut some grass or something…That’s what men do at this age…

Me looking at Mase during the Men’s Panel…

All that to say, Grammy-nominated rapper Mason Betha and Grammy-Award winning singer/songwriter Johnta Austin among others will be featured in the the highly anticipated Men’s Panel (which will be offered for free to men) to be held during the 2018 Radical Revolution Conference at World Changers Church International in College Park, Georgia starting tomorrow, March 15 through Saturday, March 17.

Hosted by Pastor Taffi Dollar and the church’s Radical Women’s Ministry, the purpose of the three-day event is to bring clarity on gender equality in relationships, leadership, and business at a time of increasing confusion that exists in both the church and society. It will feature some of the biggest names in spiritual leadership and music including WCCI founder Creflo Dollar; businesswoman, author, and media personality, Sarah Jakes Roberts; well-known author and speaker Lisa Bevere; Grammy-Award winner Tasha Cobbs Leonard; gospel singer/songwriter and actor Micah Stampley and more.  Ticket prices vary with offerings for students, individuals, and groups.  A VIP Experience is also available and includes a Meet & Greet, a Dining and Listening Lounge, and giveaways, among other benefits.

For more information, go to eventbrite.com.

Any thoughts?

 

 

Seven Scriptures to Discern God’s Attitude About Money & Giving…

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In this GoFundMe generation in which people request money for anything from assistance with medical bills to assistance to going on vacation in Vegas, it can sometimes be difficult to discern what to support and what to shame…

This issue came to a head on Thursday when The Christian Post reported that Pastor Creflo Dollar, pastor of the megachurch World Changers Church International in College Park, Ga., and his church posted a plea for “200,000 people to give contributions of 300 US dollars” in order to replace the church’s current airplane, which was built in 1984 and had 4 million miles on it, according to the church’s fundraising page. Apparently, “recently on an overseas trip to a global conference, one of the engines failed. By the grace of God, the expert pilot, who’s flown with Creflo for almost 20 years, landed the plane safely  without injury or harm to any passengers.” Specifically, the money will be used to buy a Gulfstream G650 airplane “so that Pastors Creflo and Taffi and World Changers Church International can continue to blanket the globe with the Gospel of grace.”

And then the Internet blew up with criticism of the plea stating that Pastor Dollar should opt to fly commercially or charter a bus and that airplane, which reportedly costs $65 million, itself was too much of a luxury. Kirsten West Savali of The Root said that Pastor Dollar should buy the airplane himself and outright called him a charlatan…

logoHowever, not everyone criticized Pastor Dollar and the church’s efforts…A Mark Moore, who may or may not be a member of World Changers, on Facebook said, “I am totally disgusted by the response of ministers & church leaders to Pastor Creflo Dollar’s recent pursuit of new aircraft…I’ve seen several posts from ignorant people outraged that ‘Creflo expects me to buy his jet?!’ No precious heart. ‘Creflo’ didn’t ask you to do anything. This outrage stems from a letter his ministry shared with his PARTNERS. Partners that he’s connected with over the 20+ years he’s been on international television. Partners who have decided that something he has shared has helped them enough to cause them to decide to support him.”  He concluded his lengthy post mentioning Dr. Myles Munroe, who along with his wife Ruth and others, died in a jet crash in the Bahamas in November. “I’ll close by saying that it’s disheartening to see some of the same people, who wept over the TRAGIC loss of Dr. Myles Munroe and members of his team as a result of their old aircraft not being able to handle the storm, berate Pastor Dollar for being upfront and embracing “you have not because you ask not” (which is in the Bible).”

Lakeshia Poole, also via Facebook, noted that Pastor Dollar is not the only pastor in the metro Atlanta area who uses an aircraft in ministry…Poole,  who was a member of Elizabeth Baptist Church in Atlanta before moving back to her hometown, noted that her former pastor, Dr. Craig L. Oliver, Sr., uses a helicopter to be transported to the churches various locations to preach on Sunday…”Once upon a time while walking to church, I spied my pastor in a helicopter. A helicopter, bro? Really? Is this what my tithes and offering paid for? I felt some type of way and yet I walked quickly into the newly-planted-5-minutes-from-my-house location vs. driving in the even-on-a-Sunday-hellacious-traffic of 285 to the main location. Did he really need a helicopter to spread the gospel? No…yes…maybe? Selfishly, I became cool with it because honestly if it wasn’t for that helicopter, I wouldn’t have that convenient connection…”

By Friday, the fundraising web page for the aircraft had been taken down although donations are still possible, according to the AJC

As I said originally, with so many causes, campaigns and churches asking for support, it can be difficult to discern how or if one should give so I’ve decided to post seven scriptures that we can use to discern how God wants us to use the resources that we have been given from Him…

1. “Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.” 2 Corinthians 9:7…While it is always good to support the church through tithing and or offerings, we should not feel forced or compelled to give because if we feel forced and or compelled to give, how can we give cheerfully?

2. “Each of you must bring a gift in proportion to the way the LORD your God has blessed you.” Deuteronomy 16:17…Don’t give what you don’t have! If you have been  blessed financially, you may be able to give more…However, don’t give your mortgage money to the church or to anything else if that is all that you have at the moment…

3. “But when you give to the poor, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving will be in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.” Matthew 6:3-4…The implication is that yes, we must give to the poor…However, when we do, we don’t have to tell everyone…It is in poor taste to tell others how you are helping this organization or that person unless you are trying to get others to do the same and even then we don’t have to brag…

4.” But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil.” 1 Timothy 6: 6-10…We all should strive to be financially stable but desiring to be rich can lead us down a road to hell…

5. “No servant can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.” 14 The Pharisees, who loved money, heard all this and were sneering at Jesus. He said to them, “You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of men, but God knows your hearts. What is highly valued among men is detestable in God’s sight.” Luke 16:13-15…You have to value God over your resources, and He knows who or what we really serve…And furthermore, while someone may be praised by a lot of people does not mean that God sees that person the same way…

6. “Instruct those who are rich in this present world not to be conceited or to fix their hope on the uncertainty of riches, but on God, who richly supplies us with all things to enjoy. Instruct them to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous and ready to share, storing up for themselves the treasure of a good foundation for the future, so that they may take hold of that which is life indeed.” 1 Timothy 6:17-19 Being rich in good deeds is way more important and valuable than being rich in money…

7. “But Peter said, “I have no silver and gold, but what I do have I give to you. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk!” Acts 3:6 Peter, a disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ, had no money to offer, but what he did have to offer was healing in the powerful name of Jesus Christ…

There are many more verses in the Bible about money and giving, but these verses provide a good foundation to go fund or not…

Any thoughts?